On 01 Sep 2009, at 13:04, Flammarion wrote:
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> On 1 Sep, 11:56, Bruno Marchal <marc....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
>> On 01 Sep 2009, at 10:49, Flammarion wrote:
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>>> Can't matter have processes?
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>> But in that line of discussion, the question should be: can primary
>> matter have processes. You said yourself that primary matter is
>> propertyless. How something without property can implement processes,
>> with or without qualia?
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> PM has no essential properties, but is the bearer of all
> otther properties.
How could something without property be a bearer of property?
> It can implement a computation in just
> the same way it can be red.
How ?
Without properties, I don't see how it could implement a computation.
> (Althoguh the combinatin PM+red
> is of course not PM. It is only PM as a bare substrate).
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>> I begin to think that your primary matter is even incompatible with
>> physicalism.
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> !!!!
Could you give any reference of a text in physics which uses the
notion of primary matter?
Could you give just a physical fact or proposition which would
accredit the existence of primary matter?
What is the relation between primary matter and space, time, and
energy? Does primary matter have mass?
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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Received on Tue Sep 01 2009 - 14:49:34 PDT