A bit of an end-of-year ramble. For the multi-lingual, illogically-
minded, lateral thinkers:
On 25/12/2008, at 2:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Actually Kim wrote, followed by Dr Marchal's response:
>>
>> However,
>>
>> new research has shown that reading the mind is literally possible.
>> We
>> can now assemble an image seen via an optical system transmitted only
>> via the electrical impulses read in a brain system (NewScientist last
>> ed.)
>>
>> Perhaps it is not too far from here to the thought that you and I
>> might "swap instantiations" for a short time? Maybe it would be fun
>> to
>> think, walk, talk and act like Bruno Marchal, if only for 5 minutes.
>> In fact, I would pay a princely sum to have that experience. In an
>> age
>> when some people will spend gazillions on a "space tourist" (virtual)
>> reality experience, I would go for the "Be Bruno for Five Minutes"
>> option long before I would want to see the globe from orbit....
>
>
> Kim, if you really insist you can borrow my mind and body, and all
> my hypostases actually, for as long as you want.
> Just follow the following tips to prevent complications:
>
> - always: eat bread or rice and drink water (that's my body, really.
> I need it to say "hello").
Love bread - having lived and worked in France for 3 years - love
rice; my partner is Japanese and she has all of that wonderful
imagination for rice cooking the Japanese have - drink water
constantly in coffee, tea, beer, wine, gin, whisky, vodka, sake,
shōchū - you name it
I also drink plenty of H2O neat as well - I am not of the mindset of
W.C. Fields who famously said "I never drink water. Fish fuck in it" -
although the taste of chlorine in the Sydney water supply adds little
to the experience I must say...
I wonder whether Boltzmann Brains need anything to keep them going?
Have never read anything about the "energy needs" of Boltzmann Brains...
> - in the morning: drink as much coffee or tea up until you remember
> your 1 times table multiplication. It is enough.
Yes, I am a caffeine lover too and do precisely this. Doesn't appear
to help with mathematical understanding though. Merely allows me to
feel real enough to confront "the world". Nobody should even dare to
say "hello" to me before I have raised the caffeine levels to where
they must be.
Hmmmmmm - might need something more artificial here, like a surgically-
embedded nano-chip with Newton's "Principia" imprinted in it or at the
very least "Mathematics for Dummies". Your response to this thought in
the "Kim 2.1" thread was:
"The pleasure is in the (long) path (I'm afraid). Note that a math
book, a course or a conversation is already a good approximation of
this."
Bien sûr - It was, after all, moi who was saying recently that we all
need to learn Chinese or Medieval Mongolian in our dotage to keep our
brains healthy! I agree - it's the journey (of learning) that is more
important than the arrival. Where do we arrive at, anyway? I imagine
you would probably expect to continue to learn new things about
numbers until you expire, so there is *no* arrival, no endpoint to
learning. Nevertheless, the monsters of time and entropy are starting
to bear down on me and my brain cells at age 51 (the digi-brain you
supplied unfortunately needs to be replaced every three years or at
the very least requires an exorbitantly costly hardware upgrade. In
this respect, wet, messy biological brains are still the better option
for the foreseeable future if you can only be satisfied with their
puny processing power).
Although a devotee of "life-long learning" I need to optimise my
efforts toward practical ends as death approaches and processing power
wanes. Is not the long path the path for the young learner? Even COMP/
MEC plus quantum immortality doesn't help here; there appears to be no
carry-over of knowledge between instantiations. If I die of natural
causes, I have to start the learning all over again in my neophite
self. If I go to Gaza and get a bullet in my head during a firefight I
will default to a parallel self or instantiation elsewhere in the MV,
but, once again - there is no carry-over.
Also, by the time I have mastered récherché math by age 81, the
technology of instantaneous learning will almost certainly have
arrived by then which means I could have devoted the intervening time
to something just as pleasurable but maybe considerably less
difficult. You seem to be suggesting that particular something next:
> - in the evening: smoke as much Cannabis up until you forget your 1
> times table multiplication. It is needed for re-creation.
Have been doing precisely this for at least the last 20 years. I would
welcome any interesting digression from posters on the topic of
"Cannabis and the Multiverse". Cannabis does definitely help in
forgetting things, so I am very aware of its re-creational power. What
amazes me is why the opponents of cannabis are so fearful of losing
their memories? Occasionally we need to lose information in order to
rediscover it in a different light, surely? In fact, it's not like in
Alzheimer's or degenerative brain disease where parts of the brain die
- with "le shit" there is a simple chemical veil that is drawn across
the (short term only) memory that is twitched away when the effect of
the drug expires.
What were we talking about?
> - I would be pleased if you could continue my conversation with Mary
> (you know, God's Mother, the most gentle lady of the multiverse).
Well, OK - but I don't think everyone's favourite "Atheist Theologian"
Richard Dawkins is going to like this!!!!!
> You will have to meditate two month each day OR smoke Salvia
> Divinorum (more easy). Mary is gentle but she has her mood, so be
> careful.
Never tried Salvia but you know me - I'll try anything. You've
obviously tried it, Doctor! Is this the only way (apart from the long-
haul meditation) that I can get to talk to her? What has she got to be
moody about anyway?
> - If you want to continue my conversation with the Kanabo Gods,
Ancient Japanese club-wielding demons????? SHIT NO!!!
> and deepen the Bahanarotu,
Ancient Venezuelan shamanistic ritual. Less scary, could be interested
there
> take Nicotiana Tabaccum. The secret of Tabaccum (or tabacum)
> consists in NOT smoking it.
Yes, not smoking THAT seems to guarantee a lack of death from lung
cancer. Interestingly, Cannabis (or Salvia) doesn't seem to be (as)
fraught with that danger. I charged up Himalayan mountains to 5,000
metres last year and watched the Nicotiana Tabaccum lovers in my party
sweat, suffer and - eventually climb on the Tibetan pack horse "taxi"
to ride up to the summit.
> I suggest the excellent african oral tobacco "Makla Ifrikia". Very
> useful to make your enemy disappear. Be careful the Kanabo Gods are
> not gentle and needs a lot of diplomacy.
I've got a statuette of one. He doesn't look very happy at all and is
threatening me with a very dangerous-looking weapon
> - Be super-cautious with Kava Kava,
Have to go to Fiji to get that - might save it for a holiday cruise-
ship experience.
> Ayahuasca,
Will never touch DMT!! Scary stuff....
> Alcohol
Tu rigoles, toi!!!!
> and Eggs,
Why is it then that if you go to hospital you get EGGS with every
meal? (Having said that, I have never been to hospital but others who
have report this astonishing fact)
> or please keep your own liver.
Ma foi, je vais bien garder ma foie! En effet, je préfère le shit à
l'alcool, hein?? Le cannabis opère à un niveau complètement
différent à l'alcool. Mais - tu sais bien...
> - For the leisure, try hunting the Snark, but beware everything
> beginning by the letter "B", like Baker, Butcher, Belgian, Brussels,
> Bruno, Bugs and other Boojums. Never take what they propose
> literally, they lie or joke half the times.
"Humour is by far the most significant activity of the human mind" -
Edward de Bono. He is right. Study him.
> If you follow those tips, everything will be fine until the next
> brane collision.
Chèr Bruno - je suis déjà à mi-chemin!!!
> Note that not everything is legal in all universes, so you will have
> to move, or you will have to vote for the relevant local politicians
> and wait.
Je n'en ai rien à foutre avec les politiconnards - ils sont tous les
toxicomanes de pouvoir - les hypocrites et les cinglés!!!
We only live once - but we live forever...
Kim
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Received on Thu Dec 25 2008 - 00:21:44 PST