Re: Intelligence, Aesthetics and Bayesianism: Game over!

From: Bruno Marchal <>
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:23:22 +0200

Hi Tom,

> Nice. I see beauty in the Mandelbrot set. However, there seems to be
> a lot of deja vu, similar repetition on a theme.

Right. But full of subtle variations.
It is all normal to have a lot of deja vu when you make a journey
across a multiverse ...

> I have never been
> able to find anything resembling a beautiful girl,

You are not looking close enough, and also, the zoom movie remains a
pure third person description. Consciousness is more related to a
internal flux or to some stroboscopic inside views in the Mandelbrot
Set (assuming the conjecture).
It is a bit like looking to a picture of a galaxy. You will not see
beautiful girls, unless you look close enough, and from the right

> or even a mother-in-
> law, or a white rabbit. This seems to go against your conjecture.

(remember also that "not seeing something" is not an argument of
not-existence, like seeing something is not an argument for existence).
If you want to see a white rabbit (*the* white rabbit), the best
consists in looking at

As for the mother-in-law, I am not sure about your motivations ...
(Holiday jokes :)


> Tom
> On Aug 12, 8:30 am, Bruno Marchal <> wrote:
>> On 09 Aug 2008, at 09:44, Tom Caylor wrote:
>>> I believe that nature is not primarily functional. It is primarily
>>> beautiful.
>>> And this from a theist?  Yes!  This is actually to the core point of
>>> why I am a theist.  I don't blame people for not believing in God if
>>> they think God is about functionality.
>> If you remember my conjecture that the Mandelbrot Set, (well, its  
>> complement in the complex plane), is Turing complete (that is  
>> equivalent in some sense to a universal dovetailing), then zooming in
>> it gives a picture of the arithmetical multiverse or of the universal
>> deployment. And I do find most of them wonderfully beautiful. Here is
>> my favorite on youtube:
>> Is that not wonderful? Awesome ?
>> Bruno
> >

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