Re: Observer Moment or Observer Space?

From: Russell Standish <>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:22:14 +1000

On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:34:29PM -0500, Hal Ruhl wrote:
> Hi Russell:
> You wrote:
> >What does it mean to "have a material aspect"?
> I see my model as requiring a time like aspect induced by the evolution
> triggering "endurance" meaningful question.
> Selecting out space like aspects would inject net information into the
> Everything - the out selection - so given a time dimension space dimensions
> seem unavoidable.

I'm not sure this follows. A single bit process can exist in zero
dimensional space. However, perhaps single bit processes are too uninteresting.

> I have constructed models in which matter is itself just a distortion of [a
> discrete point] space time.
> If applicable, these types of matter models would make matter a direct
> consequence of the space and time aspects.

I suspect that something like this will explain matter eventually, so
good luck with your theorizing. I'm personally intrigued by the Helon
model, but don't really have the smarts to do anything with it.

> I take this as indicating that you hold that something [information
> processing?] is going on during an observer moment. This is as in your book
> as I understand it so far. I do not see this in my model. In my model an
> observer moment is a fixed state terminated by a transition to the next
> state. The selection of a next state is in part determined by the
> incompleteness of the current state which is solely a product of its history
> and the random sub set of the incompleteness that gets resolved by the state
> to state transition. Consciousness is inherent in the process of the
> transition wherein both states momentarily overlap [for lack of a better
> term], as some incompleteness is resolved [information added] and fresh
> incompleteness is generated by that resolution.

Why don't you see this transition as a form of information processing?
The transistions may be rather accidental in your model, but this is
from a bird view perspective. From the frog perspective, the
transitions must appear to be information processing.

A/Prof Russell Standish                  Phone 0425 253119 (mobile)
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