James N Rose wrote:
>
>
> Brent Meeker wrote:
>
>> If consciousness is the creation of an inner narrative
>> to be stored in long-term memory then there are levels
>> of consciousness. The amoeba forms no memories and so
>> is not conscious at all. A dog forms memories and even
>> has some understanding of symbols (gestures, words) and
>> so is conscious. In between there are various degress
>> of consciousness corresponding to different complexity
>> and scope of learning.
>
> That notion may fit comfortably with your presumptive
> ideas about 'memory' -- computer stored, special-neuron
> stored, and similar. But the universe IS ITSELF 'memory
> storage' from the start. Operational rules of performance
> -- the laws of nature, so to speak -- are 'memory', and
> inform EVERY organization of action-appropriateness. Its
> 'memory' of the longest-term kind actually.
Assuming there is no inherent randomness. Even in MWI of QM, you can't recover the past from the present, except in a coarse-grained approximation. So you may say the universe has 'memory' and even 'is conscious' but that's stretching the common meaning of the words beyond recognition.
>
> Amoebic behavior embodies more than stimulus-response
> actions - consistent with organismic plan 'must eat';
> but less than your criterial state of sentient awareness
> - consistent with 'plan dynamics/behaviors'.
>
> The rut that science is in, is presumption that 'our sentience
> is 'the only' sentience form' and is the gold standard for
> any/all aware-behavior activity.
>
> Sentience better fits a model of spectrum and degrees; rather
> than not-extant / suddenly-extant.
I thought I said that.
Brent Meeker
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Received on Sun Dec 17 2006 - 19:33:58 PST