On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 09:19:51PM -0800, George Levy wrote:
>
> Russell Standish wrote:
>
> >It seems that there are three possibilities:
> >
> >1. Causal chains are infinite and unbounded.
> >
> >
> This approach is totally decoupled from the observer. It leads to an
> objective point of view.
>
Yes.
> >2. Causal chains are infinite but bounded (the causal chain is
> >circular).
> >
> >
> But then the case reverts to infinite and unbounded because you need a
> meta level to explain the loop.
I don't see why that would be. Could you explain more please.
>
> >3. Casual chains are finite and bounded (first cause is needed)
> >
> >
> The boundary can be taken as the "I."
Yes, and it can also be taken to be God. You pays your money.
> In other words the Anthropic
> principle can provide an initial causal point represented by all the
> characteristics of own own consciousness. The first cause is one's own
> existence. This approach requires an observer and leads to a relative
> point of view since each observer provides his own first cause.
>
> George
>
I do think of the AP as being more cyclic in nature (ie my no. 2
option). We are here, because of a long chain of causes in physics,
chemistry and biology brought us about. However, the rules governing
that long chain of causes are precisely the way they are to permit our
existence as observers.
>
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Received on Mon Nov 20 2006 - 02:17:44 PST