Re: Reality, the bogus nature of the Turing test

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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:11:54 -0400

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Subject: Re: Reality, the bogus nature of the Turing test

> (upon Bruno's question)...
>To be more precise, I identify Nothing with
> undifferentiated form, a bit like the Chaos of the ancient Greeks. > To be
even more precise, I identify it with the zero information >object, or the
set of all strings. Any person's experience is >obtained by
differentiating - selecting something from that "nothing".
> The relationship between this zero information object, and
> arithmetical platonia is a bit unclear, but I would say that anything
> constructible (Sigma_1) must be extractable from the zero >information

In my narrative for a substitute Big Bang I called the originating
zero-info-'object' Plenitude, as I realize from your words (thank you) it is
close to the Old Greek Chaos. In that narrative Universes occur by
'differentiating - selecting something from that "nothing"
(RSt). Information, observables. I had to give in to critics about the 'zero
information' because it was said that "having no information emanating from
it" IS information. Also my claims on infinite symmetry - dynamic invariance
and what you say 'the set of all strings' (I called it an unlimited content
of everything) was deemed 'information'. I defended my position by saying
that I want to state as little about this unattainable 'object' as possible,
it is only a starting point with more common sense relevance than the
quantum science related expressionS applied in the narratives of the
physical cosmology.

A silly question:
you wrote: >Any person's experience is
>obtained by differentiating - selecting
>something from that "nothing".
What makes 'that nothing' available to "persons"? is it not also available
to a computer? in which case computers may have unlimited consciousness
(whatever we call under that name).

John M

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