Re: Question for Bruno

From: uv <uv.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:17:15 -0000

Russell Standish wrote on 13/11/2005

> I noticed we'd crossed in the post. But please explain why time in
> gaol and hypnogic myoclonus have different 1- and 3- effects?

Actually I think that one of my posts, the relevant one, has
disappeared altogether so I enclose a attachment of it. The
differences between time in jail and hypnagogic myoclonis are
less from each other in this context, than insofar as they would
have different 1- and 3- effects. i.e. they would both have a
different effect in a 3-world to what they would in a 1-world,
very loosely. In the case of time in jail I loosely rely on
Parfit's ideas, whilst using it as an example. For hypnagogic
myoclonus - well it was chosen as an example with a clear
qualia feeling about it, amongst other things.

In other words the person with it would very clearly feel the effect,
as a 1-effect, different from a simple 3-effect (descriptive). But we
still have imprecisely defined notions of these 1-effects and
3-effects.But this is all AFAIK. I know of no set of clear axioms
or similar which will help, for 'strong mechanism', with clear
descriptive statements thrown in. 'Strong mechanism' is not all
that clear or definite, and even if it were it is probably
counterintuitive.

Perhaps slightly OT: for Category theory I am trying out GDCT
http://mathcs.mta.ca/research/rosebrugh/gdct/userguide.htm
First impressions are that it greatly simplifies category theory
usage, but whether it turns out like that in practical use
I don't yet know.

> I understand why lucid dreaming is an issue (I think), even if I
> don't know how to resolve it.

I notice now that this group has several postings on lucid dreams. Now
they are really quite interesting and not just as science fiction.

I am at present studying quite a different phenomenon, but just as
strange, that of synaesthesia. That became an issue in the study
of functionalism and both Jeffrey Gray (who was Eysenck's
replacement at the Institute of Psychiatry here in London) and
myself took a great interest in it and indeed I still do. Briefly,
lucid dreams could be an equally interesting subject to help decide
some of the issues in MWI. The reasons for study are to some
extent similar though, to the reasons for studying synaesthesia.
Gray in his book on the Hard Problem, gave some of his
reasons for that kind of line of study and I have others, some
of course relevant to lucid dreams. I have spoken to, tested,
and interviewed a number of synaesthetes but have not yet
got to the point of interviewing lucid dreamers, if indeed I do.

I will put more details in my newsgroup and blog when I find the time.
The blog is at
group is at http://ttjohn.blogspot.com/ and the egroup at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ttj Several members of this group have
joined.already but it is not a fast moving group like this one.

Sorry all this is a bit brief so far, but we can puruse details as
required.





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