Re: Kaboom

From: Bruno Marchal <marchal.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:19:21 +0200

On 24 Aug 2005, at 02:45, chales1.domain.name.hidden wrote:

> I can't even get past the axioms of COMP. They just donít hold
> unless I delude myself that the universe is driven by some
> mechanism implementing the underlying 'ruleness' we observe.


I don't think so at all. If comp is true then there is no primitive
Universe at all, and observable reality is, a priori, not computable
(I mean turing-emulable). This is obvious if you follow the Universal
Dovetailer Argument, so I will not explain, and I will just refer you
to my URL).


> Understanding consciousness is my goal and playing around with
> human generated symbols symbols seems to be diverting good thinking
> away from the thing that is actually responsible for consciousness
> - the natural world.

Only if comp is false, but that is coherent with what you say above.
Indeed with comp you need to explain the belief in a "natural world"
from an average of machine first person point of view. Good for me
because I am searching what the "natural world" is and where it comes
from.

Bruno


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