Re: a description of you + a description of billiard ball can bruise you?

From: Quentin Anciaux <>
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:51:45 +0200


Le Jeudi 19 Mai 2005 21:18, John M a écrit :
> Without trying to defend Robert Rosen, his (unlimited) natural systems
> (maximum models = the THING itself, not a model) are (in his words) "not
> Turing -computable", I think that is different from Bruno's unlimited
> 'comp'.

I think that is what Bruno explains (rather my understanding of it), that
"consciousness" (a thing ?) is emergent on all computations passing through
th(is/ese) state(s). If I understand, there is not one computation that
simulate a thing but a set of computation having this state. But it seems to
me that an infinity of computation passing through a particular state exists,
so I do not very well understand how a measure can be associated to it.

> Excuse me for falling through a trap-door into a reply about things I am no
> expert in. I may have the wrong bootstraps.

I'm not an expert too ;)

> Cheers
> John


Quentin Anciaux
Received on Thu May 19 2005 - 15:58:33 PDT

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