Bruno's claim is a straightforward consequence of Strong AI; that a
simulated mind would behave in an identical way to a "real" one, and would
experience the same "qualia". There's no special "interface" required here;
the simulated mind and the simulated billiard ball are in the same "world",
ie. at the same level of simulation. As far as the simulated person is
concerned, the billiard ball is "real". Of course, the simulation can also
contain a simulation of the billiard ball (2nd level simulation), which will
equally be unable to bruise the simulated person, and so on ad infinitum. If
we take Bostrom's simulation argument seriously, we all exist in some Nth
level simulation, while our simulated billiard ball exists at the (N+1)th
level.
Jonathan Colvin
> Stephen: Your claim reminds me of the scene in the movie Matrix:
> Reloaded where Neo deactivates some Sentinels all the while
> believing that he is Unplugged.
> This leads to speculations about "matrix in a matrix", etc.
>
> http://www.thematrix101.com/reloaded/meaning.php#mwam
>
> There is still one question that needs to be answered:
> what is it that gives rise to the differentiation necessary
> for one "description" to "bruise" (or cause any kind of
> change) in another "description" if we disallow for some
> thing that acts as an "interface" between the two.
>
> What forms the "interface" in your theory?
>
> http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/0001/0001064.pdf
>
> Stephen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruno Marchal" <marchal.domain.name.hidden>
> To: "Jonathan Colvin" <jcolvin.domain.name.hidden>
> Cc: <everything-list.domain.name.hidden>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 5:56 AM
> Subject: Re: What do you lose if you simply accept...
>
>
> >
> > Le 17-mai-05, à 09:56, Jonathan Colvin a écrit :
> >
> >> Is it any
> >> stranger that a blind man can not see, than that a
> description of a
> >> billiard
> >> ball's properties (weight, diameter, colour etc) can not bruise me?
> >
> >
> > It is different with comp. because a description of you + a
> description of
> > billiard ball, done at some right level, can bruise you.
> >
> > Bruno
> >
> > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
> >
> >
>
>
Received on Tue May 17 2005 - 17:39:39 PDT