Re: An All/Nothing multiverse model

From: Hal Ruhl <>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:55:10 -0500

At 05:39 PM 11/16/2004, you wrote:
>Hal Ruhl wrote:
> > [...]
>>The idea that defining a thing actually defines two things seems self
>>evident [once you notice it].
>>At least one case of unavoidable definition also seems self evident [once
>>you notice it].
>The problem with evidence is that on one side there is no other
>known basis to build certainties and on the other it appears to
>be very relative [once you notice it]. :-)

Here I was not trying to support the idea that "Self-evident" is
necessarily a positive characteristic of an idea but rather that Monday
morning quarterbacking can make it appear so. This was in response to the
comment I received. I suppose that many ideas originally considered to be
"self evident" after near term reflection were ultimately rejected.

>Also, (self) evidence that seems so sounds like a pleonasm to me.

To me "self evident" is a belief. The validity assigned to most
mathematical proofs appears - as has been said by others - to be dependent
on the belief of the majority who examine the proof. In most cases this
belief is all that is available so it is not redundant but it is no more
than majority opinion.

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