Re: Bruno's UDA argument

From: H J Ruhl <>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:07:49 -0700

Dear John:

I should be more careful when I describe my particular concept of the no
information system. It is actually a system that contains the two possible
expressions of no information the Nothing [no factuals of any sort] and the
Everything [the ensemble of all counterfactuals]. The existence of either
is information. However, they are mutually counterfactual so if they exist
simultaneously they total to no information and this absent the need for
any external referent. Since they are both counterfactuals they are both
actually in the Everything. Thus the Everything is a member of itself
infinitely and randomly nested with its counterfactual the Nothing and
again no external referent is required so information vanishes.

Of course one could initially parse the thing differently but in the end
you still it seems to me wind up with an ensemble of all counterfactuals
that is a member of itself.


At 7/23/02, you wrote:
>The statement "it contains no information" IS information.
>(In "my" Plenitude story the "no info - infinite invariance total symmetry"
>requires correction in this spirit. The "infinite variety" dose not fit: it
>intrinsically includes repetitions of similars (and that is a major point
>for generating universes) which (transitionally) falls out from both the
>infinite symmetry and the infinite invariance.
>Which is the fulguration for universe-formation, as observable complexity.
>Sorry for the digression: I am reworking my 2000 text in this sense.
>John Mikes
Received on Tue Jul 23 2002 - 18:11:51 PDT

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