RE: this very moment

From: Higgo James <>
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:29:18 +0100

The problem is that you are a devoted materialist, wheras the ideas Bruno,
Jacques and I put forward are idealist.

There may or may not be 'real, tangible walls'. But there are certainly
ideas of walls; 'my current thought' incorporates such an idea. There are
ideas of walking through walls. There is 'your' idea that you are a human
being of x age in front of a computer wondering if people can walk through
walls. There is an idea of 'I am a person and I am walking through a wall'.
There an idea, 'I am a mathematician who has found the square root of a
prime number'. All ideas exist.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fabien BESNARD []
> Sent: Thursday, 11 May, 2000 10:34 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: this very moment
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Higgo James <>
> : '' <>
> Date : jeudi 11 mai 2000 10:37
> Objet : RE: this very moment
> >You're missing the point:
> this is quite possible, for I often don't understand much of what all of
> you
> are talking about.
> >'the world' for 'you' is your current idea.
> >Speculation about miracles is part of your current idea. There is no
> >necessary connection between your speculation and anything else.
> I don't understand : my current idea must be approximately adequate to
> something I call "reality". If my idea is that "I can go through this
> wall",
> this is fine, but I won't succeed in doing so. you can tell me that
> somewhere in the plenitude there is a universe with people going through
> walls, but why do we never observe that ? It is very unlikely that I am in
> a
> world (or that I have this idea of being in a world) with physical laws
> that
> can't be by-passed, just by chance. You will perhaps find all this far too
> naive, but what I want is just to complain about is this idea of plenitude
> containing anything. For instance you can't put in it a world containing
> something which is mathematically inconsistent.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Fabien Besnard

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