The problem is that you are a devoted materialist, wheras the ideas Bruno,
Jacques and I put forward are idealist.
There may or may not be 'real, tangible walls'. But there are certainly
ideas of walls; 'my current thought' incorporates such an idea. There are
ideas of walking through walls. There is 'your' idea that you are a human
being of x age in front of a computer wondering if people can walk through
walls. There is an idea of 'I am a person and I am walking through a wall'.
There an idea, 'I am a mathematician who has found the square root of a
prime number'. All ideas exist.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fabien BESNARD [SMTP:Fabien.BESNARD.domain.name.hidden]
> Sent: Thursday, 11 May, 2000 10:34 AM
> To: everything-list.domain.name.hidden
> Subject: Re: this very moment
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Higgo James <james.higgo.domain.name.hidden>
> À : 'everything-list.domain.name.hidden' <everything-list.domain.name.hidden.com>
> Date : jeudi 11 mai 2000 10:37
> Objet : RE: this very moment
>
>
> >You're missing the point:
>
> this is quite possible, for I often don't understand much of what all of
> you
> are talking about.
>
> >'the world' for 'you' is your current idea.
> >Speculation about miracles is part of your current idea. There is no
> >necessary connection between your speculation and anything else.
>
> I don't understand : my current idea must be approximately adequate to
> something I call "reality". If my idea is that "I can go through this
> wall",
> this is fine, but I won't succeed in doing so. you can tell me that
> somewhere in the plenitude there is a universe with people going through
> walls, but why do we never observe that ? It is very unlikely that I am in
> a
> world (or that I have this idea of being in a world) with physical laws
> that
> can't be by-passed, just by chance. You will perhaps find all this far too
> naive, but what I want is just to complain about is this idea of plenitude
> containing anything. For instance you can't put in it a world containing
> something which is mathematically inconsistent.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Fabien Besnard
>
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fabien.besnard
>
>
>
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