On 16 Sep, 18:52, Bruno Marchal <marc....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> On 16 Sep 2009, at 17:25, Flammarion wrote:
>
>
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> > On 16 Sep, 15:51, "m.a." <marty....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> >> the ocean of virtual particles which may give
> >> rise to all "real" particles exists somewhere between matter and
> >> thought.
>
> > I see no reason to believe that
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle
>
> You are quite quick on this.
>
> There is a tradition in quantum mechanics , with von Neumann, Wigner,
> Walker, Penrose, and in a sense Heisenberg, Pauli, Fuchs, ... to
> ascribe to consciousness the ability to collapse the wave, in this
> case field superpostion of number operator states (in the vaccuum, say).
> This made essentially the (universal) state function into a (relative)
> knowledge state.
It is not a view in much favour nowadays, and it is not
a view that has much to do with recent developments.
It goes back to Bohr's writings which predate virtual particles, whcih
arrived with Dirac's and Feynmans's work some decades later.
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Received on Fri Sep 18 2009 - 01:46:02 PDT