On 2 Sep, 18:03, Brent Meeker <meeke....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> Flammarion wrote:
>
> > On 2 Sep, 03:10, Rex Allen <rexallen....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
>
> >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:13 AM, David Nyman<david.ny....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
>
> >>> I think his exploration of
> >>> the constraints on our actions in "Freedom Evolves" is pretty much on
> >>> the money.
>
> >> So I can't comment on Freedom Evolves, as I haven't read it. But I
> >> have read some of his articles and seen him debate and give
> >> interviews. So that sounds like Dennett alright - rearranging deck
> >> chairs, redefining words, whatever it takes.
>
> >> From the wikipedia article on "Freedom Evolves":
>
> >> "In his treatment of both free will and altruism, he starts by showing
> >> why we should not accept the traditional definitions of either term."
>
> >> So, as I said, you can't read quote of Dennett and accept it at face
> >> value, because Dennett doesn't restrict himself to traditional
> >> definitions of terms. You have to interpret Dennett's quotes within
> >> the context of his web of alternate, non-traditional "compatibilist"
> >> word definitions.
>
> >> Dennett's main goal is not to show that determinism is compatible with
> >> free will (which it isn't),
>
> > actually it is, although I don't find it very convincing
>
> I think Dennett's point is that compatibilist free-will has all the
> chracteristics of free-will that people usually think are important -
> it's "all the free-will worth having".
I'm not convinced by that either
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Received on Wed Sep 02 2009 - 10:04:52 PDT