Re: Some comments on "The Mathematical Universe"

From: Brian Tenneson <tennesb.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:22:54 -0700

Comments below.

Bruno Marchal wrote:
> Exercise: criticize the following papers mentioned below in the light
> of the discovery of the universal machine and its main consequences
> from incompleteness to first person indeterminacy. Think of the
> identity thesis. To be sure Tegmark is less "wrong" than Jannes.
>
> Solution: search in the archive of this list where I have already
> explained this, or use directly UDA, or wait for what will (perhaps)
> follow.
>
> I should send some of my papers on arXiv, but up to now, only
> logicians understand the whole "trick", so I have to better
> appreciated what physicians don't understand in logic, before making a
> version free of references to mathematical logical baggage. Logicians
> are not interested in mind, nor really matter, and physicians are
> still naïve on the link consciousness/reality, I would say.
>
> To be sure Tegmark is closer than most physicists except perhaps Wheeler.
>
> Also, Tegmarks' argument for mathematicalism is invalid (even with
> strong non-comp axioms). But I prefer to help you to understand this
> by yourself through the understanding of what a universal machine is,
> than trying a direct argument.
*I need to get a better grasp on what a universal machine is, yes. I am
interested in finding out how Tegmark's argument for mathematicalism is
invalid, especially since I'm using it to motivate my research.*

>
> According of the part of UDA (or perhaps AUDA) you understand, you can
> already see the weakness of such direct mathematical approach. Note
> that comp makes physics much more fundamental, and separate it much
> clearly from possible geograpies. Above all comp does not eliminate
> the person, which Tegmark is still doing: the frog view is not yet a
> first person view, in the comp sense.
>
> Interesting stuff, still. Thanks for the references.
*I'll have to think more on Jannes' paper. As I basically resting the
motivation of my research on the correctness of "ERH implies MUH," I'm
trying to formulate a good refutation to his paper.*


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