Re: 3-PoV from 01 PoV?

From: Stephen Paul King <>
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:49:25 +0000

Hi Bruno,

    I came upon the idea after considering how is it that the notion of an "objective reality" when we know for a fact that all of our knowledge does not come from any kind of direct contact with an "objective reality", at best it is infered. Leibniz' Monadology can be considered as a way to think of this idea where each monad represents a 1-PoV. A synchronization of many such 1PoV, given some simple consistensy requirements, would in the large number limit lead to a notion of a "common world of experience".
    The 3PoV would follow from a form of inversion or reflection of a 1PoV. For example, we form thoughts of or fellow humans from our own experiences of ourselves. BTW: it seems to me that consciousness, at least, requires some form of dynamic self- modeling process. This implies that there is no such a thing as a static consciousness.
    Re the UD Measure problem: The idea i have is that we either have our infinity within each Monad or try to find a way to derive a measure of the infinity without reference to the only source of definiteness that we have available: our conscious experience.



----- Original Message -----
  From: Bruno Marchal
  Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:23 PM
  Subject: Re: Consciousness is information?

  On 05 May 2009, at 20:13, Stephen Paul King wrote:

    Hi Bruno and Members,

        The comment that is made below seems to only involve a single consciousness and an exterior "reality". Could we not recover a very similar situation if we consider the 1-PoV and 3-PoV relation to hold to some degree over a multitude of consciouness (plurality). In the plurality case, the "objective doubtful but sharable possible reality" would be composed of a large intersection of sorts of 3-PoV aspects that can be recognized by or mapped to a statistical or generic notion of a 1-PoV. No?

  Yes. May be. Why? You need something like that for the first person plural, but you have to extract it in some precise way for solving the UD measure problem. You could elaborate perhaps.

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