Re: d'Espagnat wins Templeton Award

From: Bruno Marchal <>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:42:37 +0100

On 17 Mar 2009, at 11:49, Kim Jones wrote:


Nice! d'Espagnat got it!

> Next year, Bruno's turn!!!!!

You are too kind.

You know, in the seventies, last century, I met three or four times
d'Espagnat in Paris. I am very glad for him. It is a sincere inquirer
well aware that something was informative, to say the least, in the
EPR quantum weirdness, and in the quantum measurement problem.
I read all his four first books, and two of them has been my bible,
with respect to the quantum "mystery".
Despite a good, open minded description of Everett "many-worlds", he
prefers to stick on a veiled but fuzzy reality, yet of the platonist
kind. I am sure he could appreciate comp, if that was taught. To be
frank I have not read his more recent last books. Klein in Paris is
also very nice. Thanks for the link and for you wishes. Next year is a
bit too early I think.

About creativity I agree perhaps with Brent. I am not sure it could be
taught. Respect of the creativity of the other, can be taught, but
then only by example, by practice not by theory or suggestions. The
human mind is too "much creative" per se, and creativity is like
consistency in machine. To make a theory could lead to a contrary

About academies, I agree with many things you say, but I do think
also, that they are the worst, except for all the others. Expertise
are needed, and interdisciplinarity will develop through
interdisciplines, which will constitute new disciplines. It is the
opening of the mind to new disciplines which is lacking. Old academies
can be rotten, that is true. But then we need new academies, or we
need to reopen the very old one, the one by Plato. And learn to come
back to seriousness in fundamental human or person matter (very hard

The layman is still in advance here, in a sense. The "everything"
quest, will leads also to experts. Experts are not bad, only bad
experts are bad, especially the one who talk negatively about a field
they does not really know.

A good expert is someone who can remain silent when he does not know.
I agree with many of your points and tones. I just point on points
which, perhaps by reading to quickly, gave me the feeling that you
could criticize the wrong cible. But interesting post sure, I wish I
could say more. AUDA will lead to examples of contrariety laws. Do you
know Alan Watts, in particular "the Wisdom of Insecurity" ? Smullyan's
TAO is also very nice.



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