Steinhardt is supposed to get his book Infinite Flesh published sometime
soon. His premise is similar to Philosopher, John Leslie, save that Steinhardt
see clones of ourselves being re-born in alternate universes, though the each
incarnation is improved over the previous. Leslie is more linear (as am I)
where as the deceased continue on, in a pantheistic-spinoza- kind of way, as
part of an infinite series of divine minds. Steinhardt teaches at Patterson
University in New Jersey, and Leslie retired from University of Guelph in Canada,
is now at the University of Vancouver in British Columbia, Canada. In both
cases, I would surmise, that both scholars, would agreee that, if the Machines
are sufficiently, complex; they also can join the humans in the great
whatever. I am guessing that if a transhumanist tech breakthrough would extend
human existence, life, enjoyment, they too, would choose to stick around.
Mitch
In a message dated 1/9/2009 3:29:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
guenther.greindl.domain.name.hidden writes:
Hello,
> My domain is theology. scientific and thus agnostic theology. I
> specialized my self in Machine's theology. Or Human's theology once
> assuming comp. The UDA shows (or should show) that physics is a branch
> of theology, so that the AUDA makes Machine's theology experimentally
> refutable.
>
> Will machines go to paradise?
Some related work:
http://www.ericsteinhart.com/abstracts.html
Especially:
Steinhart, E. (2004) Pantheism and current ontology. Religious Studies
40 (1), 1 - 18.
ABSTRACT: Pantheism claims: (1) there exists an all-inclusive unity; and
(2) that unity is divine. I review three current and scientifically
viable ontologies to see how pantheism can be developed in each. They
are: (1) materialism; (2) platonism; and (3) class-theoretic
pythagoreanism. I show how each ontology has an all-inclusive unity. I
check the degree to which that unity is: eternal; infinite; complex;
necessary; plentiful; self-representative; holy. I show how each
ontology solves the problem of evil (its theodicy) and provides for
salvation (its soteriology). I conclude that platonism and
pythagoreanism have the most divine all-inclusive unities. They support
sophisticated contemporary pantheisms.
and
Steinhart, E. (2003) Supermachines and superminds. Minds and Machines 13
(1), 155 - 186.
ABSTRACT: If the computational theory of mind is right, then minds are
realized by computers. There is an ordered complexity hierarchy of
computers. Some finite state machines realize finitely complex minds;
some Turing machines realize potentially infinitely complex minds. There
are many logically possible computers whose powers exceed the
Church-Turing limit (e.g. accelerating Turing machines). Some of these
supermachines realize superminds. Superminds perform cognitive
supertasks. Their thoughts are formed in infinitary languages. They
perceive and manipulate the infinite detail of fractal objects. They
have infinitely complex bodies. Transfinite games anchor their social
relations.
Especially the first paper (concerning Pythagorenaism) is interesting.
Best Wishes,
Günther
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