Re: Machines was:Kim 2.1

From: Abram Demski <abramdemski.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:57:09 -0500

Kim,

Right, that can't be done-- maybe such a system exists, but if so then
our rationality basically fails to apply to it. So as Gunther says,
the broader version of mechanism "can be granted by every
scientifically minded person".

--Abram

On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Kim Jones <kimjones.domain.name.hidden> wrote:
>
>
> On 26/12/2008, at 5:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>>
>> On 25 Dec 2008, at 08:05, Abram Demski wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Bruno,
>>>
>>> I agree with Gunther about the two types of machine. The broader
>>> machine is any system that can be logically described-- a system that
>>> is governed by rules and has a definite description.
>>
>> Then Church thesis entails it is not broader, unless you mean that
>> the rules are not effective.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I might be missing something here, but somebody please give an example
> of a system that is NOT governed by rules and possesses NO definite
> description.
>
> cheers,
>
> K
>
>
>
> >
>



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