# Re: Properties of observers

From: John Mikes <jamikes.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:02:13 -0500

Hal,

I lost you 2) - 13): I cannot squeeze the philosophical content into a
physicalist-logical formalism. The 'terms' are naturally vague to me,
(IMO) not adequate for the ideas they are supposed to express: our
I am for total interconnection, no separable divisions etc. Aspects,
no distinctions.
I am not ready to make a conventional scientific system out of the
inconventional. I am not an 'engineer': I am a dreamer.

Maybe if I learned your entire vocabulary?....(I cannot - it
interferes with mine).

Thanks for your effort, it was counterproductive FOR ME.

John M

On Sat, Feb 9, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Hal Ruhl <HalRuhl.domain.name.hidden> wrote:
>
> Hi John and Tom:
>
> Below is a first try at a more precise expression of my current model.
>
> 1) Assume [A-Inf] - a complete, divisible ensemble of A-Inf that
> contains its own divisions.
>
> 2) [N(i):E(i)] are two component divisions of [A-Inf] where i is an
> index [as are j, k, p, r, t, v, and z below] and the N(i) are empty
> of any [A-Inf] and the E(i) contain all of [A-Inf].
> {Therefore [A-Inf] is a member of itself, and i ranges from 1 to infinity}
>
> 3) S(j) are divisions of [A-Inf] that are not empty of [A-Inf].
> {Somethings}
>
> 4) Q(k) are divisions of [A-Inf] that are not empty of [A-Inf].
> {Questions}
>
> 5) mQ(p) intersect S(p).
> {mQ(p) are meaningful questions for S(p)}
>
> 6) umQ(r) should intersect S(r) but do not, or should intersect N(r)
> but can not.
> {umQ(r) are un-resolvable meaningful questions}.
>
> 7) Duration is a umQ(t) for N(t) and makes N(t) unstable so it
> eventually spontaneously becomes S(t).
> {This umQ(t) bootstraps time.}
>
> 8) Duration can be a umQ(v) for S(v) and if so makes S(v) unstable so
> it eventually spontaneously becomes S(v+1)
> {Progressive resolution of umQ, evolution.}
>
> 9) S(v) can have a simultaneous multiplicity of umQ(v).
> {prediction}
>
> 10) S(v+1) is always greater than S(v) regarding its content of [A-Inf].
> {progressive resolution of incompleteness} {Dark energy?} {evolution}
>
> 11) S(v+1) need not resolve [intersct with] all umQ(v) of S(v) and
> can have new umQ(v+1).
> {randomness, developing filters[also 8,9,10,11], creativity, that
> is the unexpected, variation.}
>
> 12) S(z) can be divisible.
>
> 13) Some S(z) divisions can have observer properties [also S
> itself??]: Aside from the above the the S(v) to S(v+1) transition can
> include shifting intersections among S subdivisions that is
> communication, and copying.
>
> Perhaps one could call [A-Inf] All Information.
>
> Well its a first try.
>
> Hal Ruhl
>
>
>
> >
>

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