Re: Why Objective Values Exist

From: <marc.geddes.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:00:01 -0700

>3PV observation and analysis _may_ eventually turn up with objective
>criteria that establish universally consistent and reliable
>correlation between certain brain processes and certain reported
>phenomenal experiences

Of course. It appears from all scientific evidence that phenomenal
experiences are completely dependent upon physical processes. But
this does *not* establish that phenomenal experiences are *identical*
to physical processes. From the fact that phenomenal experiences
supervene upon physical processes, it does not follow that one is
reducible to the other.



I repeat:

(1) Phenomenal properties are mathematical properties. Mathematical
properties are not human fictions, but are objectively real things,
since they are indispensable for our explaantions of reality.

*Mathematical properties are about meaningful patterns (knowledge).
*Physical properties are about energy transfers.
*They are correlated but they're not the same thing. They're as
different as milk and water. And any-one who can't see this is
blind.


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