Re: Asifism revisited.

From: David Nyman <david.nyman.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 18:47:23 +0100

On 09/07/07, Torgny Tholerus <torgny.domain.name.hidden> wrote:

> One object in one universe can not affect any object in some other universe.
> But we can look at the objects in an other universe.

I would say that the conjunction of the above two sentences is a contradiction.

> Because
> everything that happens in A-Universe will also happen in B-Universe.
> All objects in A-Universe obey the laws of physics, and all objects in
> B-Universe obey the same laws, so the same things will happen in both
> universes.

We're disagreeing because you just don't accept my basic point about
reflexive existence, which IMO is a pity, because ISTM to clarify what
the "stuff" might be, and makes it much more difficult to take the
'zombie world' seriously. In fact, as I've said, I think you would
have to postulate the absence of dynamic time in the B-Universe in
order to make your claims plausible, but then the B-Universe could
hardly be claimed to be "exactly the same". However, Bruno doesn't
necessarily agree with me on this, so from a comp perspective, if you
say you're a zombie, I can only sympathise ;)

David

>
> David Nyman skrev:
> > Consequently we can't 'interview' B-Universe objects.
> >
> It is true that we can not interview objects in B-Universe. One object
> in one universe can not affect any object in some other universe.
>
> But we can look at the objects in an other universe. Just in the same
> way that we can look at a GoL-universe. So we in the A-Universe can
> look at the objects in B-Universe, and see what they are doing.
>
> One way to interview the objects in B-Universe is to do interviewing in
> the A-Universe. If A-Torgny is interviewing A-David in the A-Universe,
> then B-Torgny will be interviewing B-David in the B-Universe. Because
> everything that happens in A-Universe will also happen in B-Universe.
> All objects in A-Universe obey the laws of physics, and all objects in
> B-Universe obey the same laws, so the same things will happen in both
> universes.
>
> --
> Torgny Tholerus
>
>
> >
>

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