Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

From: Russell Standish <>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 04:17:22 +1000

On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 03:03:35AM +0100, David Nyman wrote:
> RS: Furthermore, I would make the stronger claim that self-other boundary
> must be such that neither the self nor the environment can be
> computable, even if together they are. We've had this discussion
> before on this list.
> DN: I'll try to find it - any idea where?

Its a bit scattered, unfortunately.

Search the everything list archive using the terms "uncomputable",
"randomness" or "random oracle". You will find bits and pieces on
this. Posters are typically Bruno, Stathis and myself.

I have a bit of stuff in my book on randomness (in the Evolution
chapter, and in the Consiouness chapter), but don't make a big deal
out of this. It is still all somewhat debatable.


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