Le 08-juin-07, à 18:39, Jef Allbright a écrit :
> While I would point out that physics cannot possibly explain
> everything, being a necessarily constrained subjective model of
> "reality", I would like to reinforce the point about "consciousness."
> Consciousness certainly exists, as a description relating a set of
> observations having to do with subjective awareness, but there is
> nothing requiring that we assign it the status of an ontological
> entity.
The importance of being precise! Now I agree with you, although I did
disagree with your answer to Torgny.
BTW distinguishing subjective awareness and consciousness is a
1004-fallacy ... at this stage.
Also, to say that consciousness exists as a description could be
misleading. It could exist as a phenomenon.
I don't believe that people in this list would take consciousness as a
primary reality, except perhaps those who singles out the third
"universal soul" hypostasis (the first person, alias the one described
by Bp & p in the lobian interview) like George Levy, David, etc.
With comp neither matter nor mind can be taken as primitive or primary
reality.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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Received on Sat Jun 09 2007 - 09:10:17 PDT