Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

From: Quentin Anciaux <>
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 09:50:34 +0200


2007/6/7, <>:
> On Jun 7, 3:54 pm, "Stathis Papaioannou" <> wrote:
> >
> > Evolution has not had a chance to take into account modern reproductive
> > technologies, so we can easily defeat the goal "reproduce", and see the goal
> > "feed" as only a means to the higher level goal "survive". However, *that*
> > goal is very difficult to shake off. We take survival as somehow profoundly
> > and self-evidently important, which it is, but only because we've been
> > programmed that way (ancestors that weren't would not have been ancestors).
> > Sometimes people become depressed and no longer wish to survive, but that's
> > an example of neurological malfunction. Sometimes people "rationally" give
> > up their own survival for the greater good, but that's just an example of
> > interpreting the goal so that it has greater scope, not overthrowing it.
> >
> > --
> > Stathis Papaioannou
> Evolution doesn't care about the survival of individual organisms
> directly, the actual goal of evolution is only to maximize
> reproductive fitness.
> If you want to eat a peice of chocolate cake, evolution explains why
> you like the taste, but your goals are not evolutions goals. You
> (Stathis) want to the cake because it tastes nice - *your* goal is to
> experience the nice taste. Evolution's goal (maximize reproductive
> fitness) is quite different. Our (human) goals are not evolution's
> goals.
> Cheers.

I have to disagree, if human goals were not tied to evolution goals
then human should not have proliferated.


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