Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

From: Stathis Papaioannou <>
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:33:20 +1100

On 3/9/07, John M <> wrote:

> Stathis:
> your starting the argument: "IF" the M-W-I(dea) is valid, it it seems to
> imply"...which is a bit shaky (what if not?) - the "law-like" is a breakable
> compromise between confro nting arguments. Do I read some denigration of the
> White Rabbit? (coming from a wide interpretation of "all possible")

I was merely pointing out that it is a problem to be explained, and Russell
has provided one explanation. As for the "if", well, we wouldn't want to get
too dogmatic about the things we discuss here, would we?

 Now to the meat of it:
> have you ever tried to outline the 'mind' of the early hiominid to
> survive? Before Immanuel Kant and even the Mother Goddess? Maybe with some
> notion of the most advanced and best weaponry 'ever': the hand--ax? or the
> 'mind' of an amoeba?
> Just asking questions in extension of ourselves.

You are perhaps asking about paleopsychology, a field I don't know anything
about, if anyone does. However, I was talking about what it means to survive
rather than the process whereby survival might be ensured.

Stathis Papaioannou

  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Stathis Papaioannou <>
> *To:*
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Evidence for the simulation argument
> SP wrote to BM:
> How so? The Many Worlds idea seems to imply that you survive no matter
> what. The consequences of natural selection obtain only within worlds which
> are law-like - and we're back to the white rabbit problem.
> You survive if a sufficiently close analogue of your mind survives. This
> can theoretically happen in many ways other than the obvious one (survival
> of your physical body): in parallel worlds, in a distant part of our own
> world if it is infinite in extent, in the Turing machine at the end of time.
> The white rabbit universes are a problem: since we don't observe them, maybe
> these theories are wrong, or maybe there is some other reason why we don't
> observe them.
> Stathis Papaioannou
> >

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