Bruno:
has anybody ever seen "numbers"? (except for Aunt Milly who dreamed up the 5
numbers she saw in her dream - for the lottery).
"Where is the universe" - good question, but:
Has anybody ever seen "Other" universes?
Have we learned or developed (advanced) NOTHING since Pl & Ar?
It is amazing what learned savant scientists posted over the past days.
Where are they indeed?
John
On 2/1/07, Bruno Marchal <marchal.domain.name.hidden> wrote:
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> Le 29-janv.-07, à 21:33, 1Z a écrit :
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> > On 24 Jan, 11:42, Bruno Marchal <marc....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> >> Le 23-janv.-07, à 15:59, 1Z a écrit :
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> >>> Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> >>>> Also, nobody has proved the existence of a primitive physical
> >>>> universe.
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> >>> Or of a PlatoniaCall it Platonia, God, Universe, or Glass-of-Beer,
> >>> we don' t care. But
> >> we have to bet on a "reality", if we want some progress.
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> >> Now, here is what I do. For each lobian machine
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> > Where are these machines? Platonia?
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> Fair enough. I think we can sum up the main difference between
> Platonists and Aristotelians like that:
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> Aristotelians believe in what they see, measure, etc. But platonists
> believe that what they see is the shadow of the shadow of the shadow
> ... of what could *perhaps* ultimately exists.
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> The deeper among the simplest argument for platonism, is the dream
> argument. Indeed, dreaming can help us to take some distance with the
> idea that seeing justifies beliefs. Put in another way, I believe in
> what I understand, and I am agnostic (and thus open minded) about
> everything else.
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> Now to be sure, I am not convinced that someone has ever "seen"
> *primary matter*.
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> Bruno
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> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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