RE: Evil ? (was: Hypostases (was: Natural Order & Belief)

From: Jef Allbright <>
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:41:18 -0800

Bruno -

It appears that you and I have essential agreement on our higher-level

But I don't know much about your "comp" so I'll begin reading.

- Jef

Bruno Marchal wrote:

> > With increasing context of self-awareness, subjective values
> > increasingly resemble principles of the physical universe.
> Apparently you are even more optimistic than me. I just wish
> you are correct here. It is fuzzy because the term "resemble"
> is fuzzy.

Yes, I was writing in broad strokes, just to give you the pattern, but
not the detail that has been mentioned earlier. Humanity certainly
could be within an evolutionary cul de sac.


>> Since all events are the result of interactions following
> the laws of the physical universe,
> Hmmm... It is out of topic, but I don't believe this at all. Better I
> can show to you that if "I" (or "You") are turing-emulable, then all
> events, including the apparition and the development of the physical
> laws are the result of the relation between numbers.

For the sake of my argument I might better have said that all
interactions seem to follow a consistent set of rules (which we see as
the laws of the physical universe. It seems that you have some theory
of a more fundamental layer having to do with numbers.


I'll take a look.

- Jef

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