RE: A nerw idea to play with

From: Higgo James <>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:29:03 +0100

It really is not difficult to replicat just those parts of the universe
necessary to fool the inhabitants into thinking it's real. The program just
has to 'kick back' in the right way. It does not need to model every
particle of every tree in every quad.

But here we get back to our old stamping ground...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gilles HENRI []
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 3:17 PM
> To: ''
> Subject: Re: A nerw idea to play with
> >> Over dinner in a small pub in Fotheringhay, a friend described to me
> the
> >> plot of the Matrix, which I still have not seen. It reminded me of an
> idea
> >> I had when I was about 12, after reading too much Asimov, no doubt:
> >>
> >> At some point in our evolution, we are bound to develop technology
> >> sufficiently powerful to replicate the universe in a computer over
> which
> >> we have full control (lets say it will take us a million years from
> now).
> >> We are extremely unlikely to find ourselved in the first 4million years
> >> during which this machine has not been invented. So it is highly likely
> >> that we are inside a computer, or a nest of computers.
> >>
> >> This hypothesis violates Ockam. And it's not terribly interesting
> because
> >> the same questions remain to be answered (I can't understand people who
> >> look to space-aliens for the genesis of life on earth!) But where are
> the
> >> flaws?
> >>
> >> James Higgo (not Higgo James, and my e-mail program insists on calling
> me)
> >>
> I REFUSED to see this movie! (ok, I may be wrong, but let say I refuse to
> pay to see this movie, I will wait until it comes on TV)
> Again all this stuff relies on what I called comp2, ie the hypothesis that
> a digital simulation can be at some level completely equivalent to an
> analogic physical system. To speak like Jacques, I think that's the worst
> crackpot idea that emerged from computer science!
> The flaw is that even if it were the case, the required information is so
> huge that it could not be physically realized by any system in our
> Universe. You must invoke a super Universe where the amount of available
> information would by far exceed that in our own universe. So it won't take
> a million years to do it. It will never be done...
> Gilles
Received on Tue Aug 31 1999 - 07:33:40 PDT

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