Re: Difficulties in communication. . .

From: Bruno Marchal <>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:14:14 +0200

Le 12-août-06, à 18:27, 1Z a écrit :

> Comp could be true in a material universe, so comp does not
> imply the non-existence of matter.

For some observer O, in some putative "material" universe, comp can be
true for "a nanosecond".
To remain stably longer in a material universe is as probable as
staying in a Harry Potter Universe. So even if a material universe
exist, and even if just right now you are in such a universe, the comp
first person indeterminacy entails that you will not last in it for
more than an instant, so that you cannot use it for explanatory
purposes. This should follow from the UDA. Don't you see?

So you are right, from a purely logical point of view, comp does not
forbid the existence of some material realm (but what is it?). It just
forbids the use of "hypothetical matter" for explaining physics. Then
by the usual scientist use of OCCAM (not necessarily the stronger form
like in some form of anthropic reasoning) it follows that we don't need
at all the "materialist" hypothesis. Neither in physics, nor in
philosophy of mind, theology, etc.


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Received on Mon Aug 14 2006 - 10:17:38 PDT

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