Re: Are First Person prime?

From: 1Z <>
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 19:43:59 -0000

Brent Meeker wrote:

> 1Z wrote:
> >
> > David Nyman wrote:
> ...
> >>Well, if 'experience' is the fact of *being* differentiable existence,
> >>and 'the physical' is the observable relations thereof, then both
> >>ultimately 'supervene' on there being something rather than nothing.
> >
> >
> > No. There being something rather than nothing is only
> > 1 buit of information: not enough for a universe to
> > supervene on.
> This may not be the problem you think it is. In quantum mechanics there can
> be negative information and there are some (speculative) theories of the
> universe that have it originating from at state with only one bit of
> information.

It would still have to generate localised information, and complex
supervenient properties would still need something complex
to supervene on. A supervenience-base is more than a
necessary precondition.

> Then complexity we see is due to the separation of entangled
> states by the inflation of the universe. Unitary evolution of the
> wave-function of the universe must preserve information. In these theories,
> as my friend Yonatan Fishman put it, "The universe is just nothing, rearranged."

But entanglement must generate localised information.

> Brent Meeker

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