<jami....domain.name.hidden> wrote:
> Communication - human and in language, I suppose, depends on words we say,
> understand and assign (some) meaning to. So here is a bit of nitpicking
> about the words you used below: (please, Peter, don't take it personally -
> thank you):
>
> Properties: Would you reduce them to green, hard, big, hot etc.? Isn't all
> that jazz in the physics books about 'properties' in another sense?
Properties are whatever distinguishes one thing from another. Whether
green, hard, big etc are reducible to the properties of physics is
another
question.
> Roles to perform: you mean roles we 1.) know about, 2.) accept as 'roles',
> or even does everything have to perform a role?
>
> Instantiated: represented by a 'role' we acknowledge. And if we don't? is
> nature
> subject to our approval (or even knowledge)?
>
> Existence: what is it?
A very tricky question. My take is that "..exists" is a meaningful
predicate
of *concepts* rather than things. The thing must exist in some
sense to be talked about ...in what sense ? Initially as a concept,
and then we can say whether or not the concept has something
to refer to. Thus "bigfoot exists" means "the concept 'bigfoot' has
a referent".
> Possible things: possible in OUR (limited) view? or possible, even if we
> 'think' it is impossible (for us)? BTW Harry Potter things are all
> possible, they exist in "our" universe, since human minds (part of
> our universe) have it.
The don't *literally* exist in minds.
> So are the numbers (according to D. Bohm:
> human inventions) - they are part of nature, since humans as part of
> nature invented them with their minds - and now containing the
> numbers "in nature". (No offense, numberist members!)
>
> Propertiless change: as I assume: existence is a property even of matter.
> Destroy matter and its property of 'existence' will change (BH etc.).
How do you destroy matter ?
> Of
> course the big question remains: is 'radiation' (waves?) matter or not?
Mass/energy are interchangeable and are both the "substrate"..
> Just for a lazy Sunday afternoon, with friendship
>
> John Mikes
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "1Z" <peterdjones.domain.name.hidden>
> To: "Everything List" <everything-list.domain.name.hidden>
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Difficulties in communication. . .
>
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Received on Sun Aug 13 2006 - 15:35:33 PDT