Le 17-juil.-06, à 14:14, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit :
>  I understand up to the point in step 7 where you explain the workings 
> of the UD. You've tried explaining it again a couple of weeks ago, and 
> I think it is clearer every time I look at it, but I still have some 
> difficulties. I will reply to Quentin's post (which is admirably 
> concise) later.
Quite fair.
>  I think I have more basic difficulties also, like the Maudlin 
> argument re the handling of counterfactuals for consciousness to 
> occur:
It is a bit harder, no doubt. And, according to some personal basic 
everything philosophy, the Maudlin argument is important of not ....
> is this requirement just to avoid saying that everything implements 
> every computation?
Jacques Mallah makes that point some years ago (in this list), and I 
think Hal Finney has developed that point. I think their argument are 
valid. But then I don't think the Putnam-Mallah-Chalmers is really a 
problem once you get the idea that the physical world emerge from the 
mathematical world of computations. Personally I have never seen a 
convincing argument that everything implements every computations, just 
perhaps some tiny part of some computations.
I will postpone saying more on the movie-graph/Olympia type of argument 
(if only to avoid to much simultaneous threads and to modulate the 
difficulties).
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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Received on Mon Jul 17 2006 - 10:25:41 PDT