Saibal,
your phrase:
>"...very complex ''laws of physics'' that describe the qualia we
experience. .."<
includes "laws": the recurring observational portions in the model observed,
(if our view extends, the 'laws' may alter)
and a restriction to what "we experience". Which is continually expanding as
our epistemic enrichment goes on - and/or as we learn to 'think' better.
I may compare your position in hard/soft ware dichotomy to my ignorance is
computer science what I never learned:
I "see" lights on/off and some hardware when I peek into the box and hear
noises, and read what comes on the screen. As an engineer I may guess that
the hardware turns and contacts lick off signs, organize them, but from
software I have no idea (not compiler, not programs, not how your name comes
out of 0,1, but
I accept it and manipulate my computer (poor soul!) to DO what I want.
This is the level I feel in your (and others) position about "our brain
(even if it includes the software) "simulating us" even understand the
universe.
Starting with that 'nothin' we know and speculating about the rest.
The ideas may be recent, but the modus operandi (mental) is ancient.
Thanks for the reply
John M
----- Original Message -----
From: "Saibal Mitra" <smitra.domain.name.hidden>
To: "everything" <everything-list.domain.name.hidden>; "John M"
<jamikes.domain.name.hidden>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Reasons and Persons
>
> John, actually I don't want to do that per se. I think that ultimately we
live in a
> universe described by the very complex ''laws of physics'' that describe
the qualia we
> experience. Perhaps it is better to say that we are such complex
universes. We are
> simulated in a universe described by simple laws of physics. Our brains
are simulating
> us. We shouldn't confuse the hardware with the software....
>
>
> Saibal
>
>
> Quoting "jamikes.domain.name.hidden" <jamikes.domain.name.hidden.net>:
>
> >
> > And why do you want to restrict a 'person' to a cut view of its neurons
> > only?
> > Isn't a person (as anything) part of his ambience - in a wider view: of
> > the
> > totality, with interction back and forth with all the changes that go
on?
> > Are you really interested only in the dance of those silly neurons?
> >
> > John M
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Saibal Mitra" <smitra.domain.name.hidden>
> > To: <everything-list.domain.name.hidden>
> > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 9:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: Reasons and Persons
> >
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