Is a self-referentially-correct Loebian machine Omniscient?

From: Stephen Paul King <stephenk1.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:44:59 -0500

Dear Bruno,

    Kim Jones' post prompts me to ask whether or not a
"self-referentially-correct Loebian machine" involves an infinite regress
or a non-well founded structure. Given that it is typical to include the
idea of a non-prescripted interview, where the questions can have follow ups
based on answers given and thus not prespecified, how does a Loebian machine
prevent a pathological regress? Is this where one is really coming up with a
fancy secular notion of "omniscience" (infinite computational/simulation
power)?

    Any idea?

Onward!

Stephen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Jones" <kimjones.domain.name.hidden>
To: "uv" <uv.domain.name.hidden>
Cc: "Bruno Marchal" <marchal.domain.name.hidden>; "Everything-List List"
<everything-list.domain.name.hidden>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: belief, faith, truth


> Which is very interesting, isn't it? People do seem want the kind of
> modelled structure for their existence that theology projects. Even
> though G means we can never know the truth of it, theology tells us it is
> nonetheless there.
>
> Has anyone on this list read Neale Donald Walsch's "Conversations with
> God?" series of books? Bruno may well be interested to read at least
> Volume 1 if he hasn't yet encountered it. The whole book IS the interview
> with the self-referentially-correct Loebian machine! I realised this
> yesterday after re-reading sections of it and comparing them to Bruno's
> thinking.
>
Received on Fri Feb 17 2006 - 22:28:56 PST