Re: belief, faith, truth

From: Bruno Marchal <>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 16:11:53 +0100

Le 02-févr.-06, à 17:31, Norman Samish a écrit :

> My conjecture is that a perfect simulation by a limited-resource AI
> would not be possible.  If this is correct, then self-aware
> simulations that are perpetually unaware that they are simulations
> would not be possible. 

This could be a reasonable conjecture. I have explain on the list that
if we are a simulation then indeed after a finite time we could have
strong evidence that this is the case, for exemple by discoveries of
discrepancies between the "comp-physics" and the "observed physics".

>  Humans have not made the discovery that they are
> simulations, therefore the most probable situation is that we are not
> simulations.

This argument is not valid. The reason is that if we could be "correct"
simulation (if that exists), then that would remain essentially
Then I could argue the premise is false. Violation of bell's
inequalities could be taken as an argument that we are in a simulation
(indeed in the infinity of simulation already "present" in the
"mathematical running" of a universal dovetailer, or arithmetical

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