Re: RE Lobian Machine

From: Stephen Paul King <stephenk1.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 01:36:03 -0500

Hello All,

    Pardon the comment, but is it not obvious to all that Mathematics is a
realm of which faithful representations of our Physical universe span an
infinitesimal portion? Even those of us that do not swallow the sweet Blue
Pill of Platonia can see this. ;-)

Onward!

Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jose Ramón Brox" <ambroxius.domain.name.hidden>
To: <everything-list.domain.name.hidden>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:17 AM
Subject: RE Lobian Machine


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kim Jones" <kimjones.domain.name.hidden>
>
>
>>So apparently those who do not scale the dizzying heights of
>>metamathematics have no hope of understanding reality?
>
> I never said that, but you simply can't take a theorem about a specific
> area, that is true
> within a context and take it out from that context to try to use it "in
> reality", to
> "give" social explanations. That's what pseudoscience do.
>
> I will say that without mathematical (not methamatematical) knowledge, one
> cannot aspire
> to understand reality (in the terms a physic understand it).
>
>>There will come a time very soon when all of this comp stuff will
>>need to be translated into terms the LAYman can understand easily.
>>Russell Standish has already made the attempt. I appreciate gratly
>>his attempt. Stop wanking off that mathematics is the ONLY script in
>>which reality is encoded. It could well turn out to be music.
>
> You are thinking it the other way around - the incorrect one. Music is a
> small, small part
> of physics, and therefore, it's represented by a (quite simple)
> mathematical model.
> Reality is more complex than that model, and other aspects of reality can
> be modelled by
> math different from the one used in the music model, so the reality can't
> turn out to be
> music in that sense.
>
> Well, I'm speaking about the mechanical phenomena of music, that are
> simple, not about the
> way our brains interpret it, that can be quite complex and enjoyable
> (that's why we say
> it's an art).
>
> Jose
Received on Sat Dec 31 2005 - 01:38:03 PST

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