I'm perhaps missing something here. In a no-collapse interpretation of QM,
doesn't "everything double" every moment? So, if only one of the doubled
versions of a person is annihilated, doesn't this mean the probability of
survival is 1?
Although the plenitude is timeless, containing all possible states, we
self-aware substructures certainly experience the illusion (if you prefer,
the emergent phenomenon) of time. When I consider which parts of the
plenitude are of selfish interest to me, I need only consider those parts
which I perceive to be in my unique present or in my pluripotent future.
More narrowly, I need only consider those parts which I perceive to be in my
immediate future - my next conscious moment - since it is only through this
process, a moment at a time, that potential future experiences become actual
present experiences, rather than irrelevant side-branches, such as the
version of me who migrated to New Zealand when I was 5 years old. What this
means is that when I consider the subjective probability of what will happen
to me in the next moment, I don't have to think about those versions of me
which are in the past, in the far future, have turned into George Bush or
are dead. I could put this differently: as a matter of fact, it is not
incorrect to say that I will suddenly become 5 years old again, or turn into
Geoge Bush, since all these states exist timelessly in the plenitude and
there is no absolute sense in which it can be said that one state "becomes"
another state. However, from my selfish point of view, when I consider the
next moment, all those other states are irrelevant. The only relevant states
are those which count as my "next moment", as normally understood by humans.
Where there are multiple candidate "next moments", the probability that I
will experience one of them depends on the relative measure of each in the
plenitude. If there is no candidate "next moments" at all, then I will die.
Stathis Papaioannou
Saibal Mitra writes:
>I still think that if you double everything and then annihilate only the
>doubled person, the probability will be 1. This is simply a consequence of
>using the absolute measure. The idea is that the future is ''already out
>there''. So, the correct picture is not that suddenly the plenitude is made
>larger because a copy of the person plus (part of) his universe is appended
>to the plenitude. The plenitude itself is a timeless entity, containing all
>possible states. If someone wants to carry out a duplication experiment
>then
>the results of that are ''already'' present in the plenitude.
>
>When death can be ignored then the apparent time evolution can be described
>by a relative measure which is given as the ratio of absolute measures
>taken
>before and after an experiment (as pointed out by George Levy in a previous
>reply). Note that the locality of the laws of physics imply that you can
>never directly experience the past. So, if you measure the z-component of a
>spin polarized in the x-direction, you will find yourself in a state where
>you have measured, say, spin up, while you have a memory of how you
>prepaired the spin of the particle, some time before you made the
>measurement. One thus has to distinguish between the three states:
>
>S1: the experimenter prepaires the spin of the particle
>
>S2: the experimenter finds spin up while having the memory of being in S1
>
>S3: the experimenter finds spin down while having the memory of being in S1
>
>These three states are ''timeless'' elements of the plenitude. They have
>their own intrinsic measures. I challenge people on this list to explain
>why
>this is not the case. If you have a plenitude you have everything. So, S1,
>S2 and S3 are just ''out there''. The measure of S2 and S3 are half that
>of
>S1. The probability of being in either S2 or S3 is thus the same as being
>in
>S1. But if measuring spin down leads to instant death, then the probability
>of being alive after the experiment is half that of being alive before the
>experiment.
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