Re: Neutrino shield idea

From: Saibal Mitra <smitra.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:45:25 +0200

I'm sure you saw something else :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Ross" <jross.domain.name.hidden>
To: "'Russell Standish'" <r.standish.domain.name.hidden>
Cc: "'Hal Ruhl'" <HalRuhl.domain.name.hidden>; <everything-list.domain.name.hidden.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 01:40 AM
Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea


> I say a neutrino does not have a rest mass. It is a photon, like a very
> high energy gamma ray photon. I have seen photos of a neutrino
> collision in a neutrino trap. From the look of all the resulting
> ionization tracks, it must have had a lot more energy than 40 ev. I say
> the energy of neutrinos is in the range of 300 mev!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russell Standish [mailto:r.standish.domain.name.hidden]
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:00 PM
> To: John Ross
> Cc: 'Hal Ruhl'; everything-list.domain.name.hidden
> Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea
>
>
> According to special relativity, anything with a positive rest mass
> travels slower than the speed of light. Neutrinos have been measured
> with a positive rest mass, of around 40ev for the electron neutrino
> IIRC, and higher values for the muon and tauon neutrinos.
>
> I have never heard of either tardyon or luxon before either, but have
> heard of tachyon, or faster than light particle. Clearly tardyon is
> therefore slower than light, and luxon is at light speed.
>
> Luxons therefore have zero rest mass, and tachyons have imaginary (ie
> proportional to sqrt(-1)) rest mass.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 03:06:55PM -0700, John Ross wrote:
> > Where is the proof that a neutrino is not a photon. I believe people
> > are only guessing that a neutrino is a tardyon, whatever in the hell a
>
> > tardyon is. Tardyons are not in my dictionary.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hal Ruhl [mailto:HalRuhl.domain.name.hidden]
> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:50 PM
> > To: everything-list.domain.name.hidden
> > Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea
> >
> >
> > As I understand it a photon is a luxon as is a gluon and a neutrino
> > is a tardyon.
> >
> > Hal Ruhl
> >
> >
> > At 04:49 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote:
> > >I think the beta decay model is wrong where it predicts neutrinos are
> > >basically different from photons. I understand neutrinos travel at
> the
> >
> > >speed of light. Only photons travel at the speed of light.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Saibal Mitra [mailto:smitra.domain.name.hidden]
> > >Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:30 PM
> > >To: John Ross; everything-list.domain.name.hidden
> > >Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea
> > >
> > >
> > >This means that beta decay proves your model wrong.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "John Ross" <jross.domain.name.hidden>
> > >To: "'Stephen Paul King'" <stephenk1.domain.name.hidden>;
> > ><everything-list.domain.name.hidden>
> > >Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 12:35 AM
> > >Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the paper relating to detection of "low energy"
> > > > neutrinos. However, according to my model, neutrinos are very,
> very
> > > > high energy photons (off everybody's chart, except mine).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, if my model is correct, then low energy neutrinos would
> > > > merely be the photons we are familiar with and would be very easy
> to
> >
> > > > detect.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stephen Paul King [mailto:stephenk1.domain.name.hidden]
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:54 PM
> > > > To: everything-list.domain.name.hidden
> > > > Subject: Neutrino shield idea
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Howdy!
> > > >
> > > > I friend of mine has worked on a related idea that might help
> > > > this
> > >
> > > > inverstigation. Please see:
> > > >
> > > > http://davidwoolsey.com/physics/ideas/neutrinoscope/index.html
> > > >
> > > > Kindest regards,
> > > >
> > > > Stephen
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Ross" <jross.domain.name.hidden>
> > > > To: <daddycaylor.domain.name.hidden>
> > > > Cc: <everything-list.domain.name.hidden>
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:57 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet Theory
> > > > of
> >
> > > > Everything
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yes. But building a neutrino shield would be difficult.
> > > >
>
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