Re: How did it all begin?

From: Stephen Paul King <>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:40:39 -0400

Dear Friends,

    Does it truly make sense to assume that Existence can have a Beginning?
We are not talking here, I AFAIK, about the beginning of our observed
universe as we can wind our way back in history to a Big Bang Event Horizon,
but this event itself must have some form of antecedent that Exists.
Remember, existence, per say, does not depend on anything, except for maybe
self-consistency, and thus it follows that Existence itself can not have a
"beginning". It follows that it is Eternal, without beginning or end.

    IMHO, Tegmark's paper, like the rest of his papers, is not worth reading
if only because they misdirect thoughts more than they inform thoughts.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Norman Samish" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: How did it all begin?

> Hi Godfrey,
> Thanks for the ID. Now I know that "Godfrey" is one of the
> mind-stretchers on this list.
> I hope that Saibal will eventually tell us the reason(s) for
> "Dishonorable Mention."
> I read Tegmark's paper too, where he seems to attribute the beginning
> of
> "It" to Inflation. But he didn't appear to address how, or why, Inflation
> got started. I guess his definition of "It" ends with our Big Bang.
> Thinking of Big Bangs, or anything else, as a logical process that
> occurs without causality isn't something I'm able to do. But I'll keep
> reading!
> Norman
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Received on Wed Aug 31 2005 - 18:41:10 PDT

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