On 30 Aug 2005, at 05:53, chales1.domain.name.hidden wrote:
> The misinterpretations compounded and intermingled so much I
> decided to cut to the meat of it.. I suspect that this dialogue
> will end in the usual way. Being ignored....The well worn path of
> COMP and all the things it says, the idea that a multiverse
> explains something: these are entrenched and have been for so long
> that someone like me who turns up with something that does not even
> need these basic premises is unlikely to be understood.
But I don't pretend multiverse explains something. Neither the
existence of a universe or a multiverse is assumed.
> I find an assumption of COMP far more tenuous than an assumption of
> a natural world
I respect this.
> In the universe-as-a-calculus Bruno is a Proof.
As Russell point out to Godfrey, it is important to distinguish sort
of constructive physicalism a-la-Schmidhuber, where the physical
universe is a computational object and comp where there is no
physical universe at all. from this I can conclude you are not
reading the posts (still less my papers), and you are fighting an
idea you have build from comp.
> I don’t want to hear COMP predicts this or QM says that... these
> are irrelevances. What I want to hear is COMP says subjective
> experience is like this because.....
This is done. Comp explains a lot of things about the nature of the
first person including role of consciousness, correct feeling of
ineffability, impossibility to recognize itself into any third person
description, relation with intuitionism and Brouwer's theory of
consciousness, etc...
> and therefore brain material will be found like _this_. That will
> lend some credence to it.
This is done. In particular brain material and all material cannot be
captured by a classical logic, but by a quantum logic.
Mmhhh... It looks like the new fashion in town, I mean the list,
consists to criticize text without reading it. I thought naively that
this was only a Belgium specialty!
Please Colin, I respect your theory, and if you believe there is a
primitive natural world, then by criticizing comp you are with me,
logically. Comp is just (epistemologically) incompatible with the
belief in a primary physical reality. If you are interested in that
result, I propose you to follow the reasoning step by step.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
Received on Tue Aug 30 2005 - 06:26:02 PDT