Re: subjective reality

From: Hal Ruhl <HalRuhl.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:33:45 -0400

Hi Godfrey


At 01:09 PM 8/22/2005, you wrote:
>Hi Hal,
>
>I am sorry I have not responded to you previously and I
>thank you for the further clarifications your provide
>about your theory. Sounds quite extraordinary but
>unfortunately I don't feel I grasp it well enough
>to make any useful comment as to its contents.

There is a recent thread I started "An All/Nothing universe model" that
gives some of the model's recent development. I can not access the archive
right now so I can not give you a URL for the start of the thread.

> From what you say before it seems that you claim that
>you derive YD, CT and AR from it which happen to be
>Bruno's points of departure! Is that the case? Does
>your All include false statements too?

I do not derive YD, CT or AR. The model is based on a list of properties
that objects can have. Definition divides this list into two sub
lists. The Nothing has the sole property "empty", the All has all the
remaining properties. The list of course would have properties that seem
incompatible as simultaneous properties of a single object, but
nevertheless definitions create such objects as the "is not" member of the
definitional pair. So the All is - in total - self incompatible, but so
what?

It would seem that the All contains YD, CT, and AR since these are
potential properties of objects and would be on the list. I gave an
example of a universe that seems compatible with these and seems to become
more compatible with our universe if one adds noise which is the result of
the random dynamic. The fact that YD may be incompatible with QM or any
other item on the list is not relevant to the All but only to sequences of
states of universes that are given instantations of reality by the dynamic.

Thus if Bruno's reasoning from YD, CT, and AR is correct - I am not one to
judge - then the All would contain potential sequences of universe states
compatible with comp. The noise causes such sequences to jump tracks here
and there.

>I am asking this out of curiosity not because I see any
>obvious way of addressing the falsification of your model.

As to falsifiability of my model I will try to list my assumptions, etc.:

1) There exists a list [call it the Everything] of all possible properties
of objects that can have reality.

2) The list is divided into two sub lists by the process of definition
[definition forms a definitional [is:is not] pair].

3) The definition resulting in the [Nothing:All] definitional pair is
unavoidable and thus this pair has simultaneous existence with the list.

It is then noted that the Nothing can not respond to any meaningful
question about itself and there is such a question: Does it persist? Thus
the Nothing is incomplete. The necessary attempt at resolution of this
incompleteness by the Nothing by accessing [incorportating] parts of the
list [a symmetry breaking?] results in a random dynamic within the All
producing a randomly evolving Something [that which the Nothing has become
by incorporating parts of the list] [an evolving universe]. But by #3 the
Nothing must be restored so the process of creating randomly evolving
Somethings repeats [a form of an MWI]. A random evolution can produce long
strings of states of universes that can support Self Aware Structures
[SAS], YD, comp etc. [A state of a universe is one side of a definitional
pair - a sub list, and I have in the past called sub lists "kernels" [of
information] to tie in with some of my previous posts.]

That is my model in a nut shell.

>I don't want to sound like a big stickler for Popper or
>anything but I am sure you are familiar with the infamous
>libel often directed at String Theory that "it is not even false!"

I believe that particular description is actually more like "that is not
even wrong" [citation unknown] and may be older than string theory. In any
event I think we should be careful how we use descriptions such as
true/false, right /wrong, compatible/incompatible, in contradiction with,
etc. because they seem to have different domains. I am now interested in
how you and Bruno use such terms re comp, YD, UDA, QM, MWI, etc.

In that regard I think it is time you present your argument re YD/QM and
see what the list has to say about it.

Hal Ruhl
Received on Tue Aug 23 2005 - 10:38:03 PDT

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