Le 08-août-05, à 00:11, Lee Corbin a écrit :
> Jesse and Norman gave excellent reasons for us not to abandon the
> objective stance.
I think we all agree here. I am not sure that anyone regular in this 
list has ever abandon or proposed to abandon the objective stance.
It is quite the contrary, concerning subjectivity, we make hypotheses, 
in general in a way as to make them testable (like comp or the quantum 
hypothesis), so that we can develop an objective talk on it, and derive 
objective facts from it.
Note that Everett and Deutsch proceed like this. The only way to 
suppress the collapse of the wave packet in quantum physics (and 
without changing QM like Bohm or de Broglie) is by accepting the 
existence of an objective line between objectivity (described here by 
the SWE) and subjectivity (described here by sequence of memories in 
classical machines).
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
Received on Mon Aug 08 2005 - 06:54:18 PDT