Re: "Free Will Theorem"

From: Stathis Papaioannou <>
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:53:45 +1000

John Mikes wrote:

>Dear Stathis,
>isn't this getting out of control?
>I am not talking about your ingenious octopus question (ask the octopus!)
>I am talking of the simplistic anthropomodelled and today-level-related way
>of thinking: something (anything) is black or white, in other words:
> it is either this (one) way we can think about now, or it is THE other
>way we can think of now, as an alternative.
>This list produced more advanced ways of thinking over the 5-6 years (?) I
>have the pleasure of reading in.

Sorry if I got carried away on this thread, John. I have been trying to say
that "free will" is a subjective experience, first and foremost, and to
debate whether it is philosophically or scientifically sound is a category
error. You could take the 8-freedom I described for my octopus and conclude
that it it is nonsensical or contradictory, but it would be foolish to then
say the octopus is wrong about what it feels; i.e., "ask the octopus" is the
correct answer. I thought you might agree with me here if nowhere else,
since you can take it as showing a mild contempt for science.

--Stathis Papaioannou

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Received on Sat Apr 16 2005 - 09:57:07 PDT

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