Re: Quantum Theory from Quantum Gravity

From: Doriano Brogioli <doriano.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 12:43:16 +0100

As many other theories about quantum mechanics, also this one is based
on Nelson's idea of quantum mechanical effects in classical mechanics.

Unfortunately, Nelson's idea cannot explain all the quantum mechanical
effects observed in nature. In order to apply Nelson's approach, we need
that the velocity field is v=dS(x,t)/dx. This condition means that all
the interference effects cannot be explained by Nelson's idea. By the
way, it's worth noting that all the non-local effects of quantum
mechanics are basically interference phenomena, so Nelson's idea
reproduces only a "lesser quantum mechanics", that is local.

The same problem holds for this new paper.

A polemic consideration. If one understood the so called "many worlds
interpretation", that is the Everett interpretation of quantum
mechanics, he should be able to understand that the "lesser quantum
mechanics" describes only a single world. The two ideas, or
interpretations, cannot hold together!

Finally, it's time to note that many explanation of quantum mechanics in
terms of statistical dynamics have been proposed, but none of them have
been able to explain any experiment about quantum mechanics. Many people
(including G. Parisi, for example) proposed a similarity between quantum
field theory and classical statistical mechanics, but there's alwais a
factor "i" that is wrong. There's a huge difference between diffusion
equation and Schroedinger equation, though they differ only by a factor
"i". I'm a supporter of many worlds theories, and I think that there are
many experimental evidences of the real existence of different wave
packets in interference experiments. This is in contrast with the
"lesser quantum mechanics", where interference is not possible.

Best regards,

Doriano Brogioli



Saibal Mitra wrote:
> http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0311059
>
>
> *Authors:* Fotini Markopoulou
> <http://arxiv.org/find/gr-qc/1/au:+Markopoulou_F/0/1/0/all/0/1>, Lee
> Smolin <http://arxiv.org/find/gr-qc/1/au:+Smolin_L/0/1/0/all/0/1>
>
> We provide a mechanism by which, from a background independent model
> with no quantum mechanics, quantum theory arises in the same limit
> in which spatial properties appear. Starting with an arbitrary
> abstract graph as the microscopic model of spacetime, our ansatz is
> that the microscopic dynamics can be chosen so that 1) the model has
> a low low energy limit which reproduces the non-relativistic
> classical dynamics of a system of N particles in flat spacetime, 2)
> there is a minimum length, and 3) some of the particles are in a
> thermal bath or otherwise evolve stochastically. We then construct
> simple functions of the degrees of freedom of the theory and show
> that their probability distributions evolve according to the
> Schroedinger equation. The non-local hidden variables required to
> satisfy the conditions of Bell's theorem are the links in the
> fundamental graph that connect nodes adjacent in the graph but
> distant in the approximate metric of the low energy limit. In the
> presence of these links, distant stochastic fluctuations are
> transferred into universal quantum fluctuations.
>
>
>
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