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From: Hal Ruhl <HalRuhl.domain.name.hidden>

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 21:34:05 -0400

Hi John:

My purpose for asking for comments re is "definition" a mathematical

process was to clear up some questions re my model.

1) Does my Everything - since it contains all does - it contain the

Nothing? Well it certainly contains its side of the defining boundary so

my current response is yes to the maximum degree possible.

2) Was mathematics always present? Well my founding definition results in

incompleteness and inconsistency [complex mathematical concepts] and is

unavoidable so it always was. So my current answer is yes mathematics has

always been present at the fundamental level.

3) As to mind and body and observer I currently see all this as missing the

real issue: in my view sub systems such as we do not observe or

unilaterally decide, but rather we involuntarily participate. I see two

possibilities that are not mutually exclusive: 1) the state of the universe

just prior to my closing or not closing the switch that submits this post

spontaneously appeared in the metaverse or 2) a sequence [or sequences] of

states from some earlier initiating state(s) end in the same prior

state. These are not distinguishable. Because of all the other poised

conditions in the prior state and external noise I find inherent in the

process I believe an infinite number of new sequences emerge from this

state. In some I close the switch and in some I do not.

Hal

Received on Thu Jul 01 2004 - 22:00:42 PDT

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 21:34:05 -0400

Hi John:

My purpose for asking for comments re is "definition" a mathematical

process was to clear up some questions re my model.

1) Does my Everything - since it contains all does - it contain the

Nothing? Well it certainly contains its side of the defining boundary so

my current response is yes to the maximum degree possible.

2) Was mathematics always present? Well my founding definition results in

incompleteness and inconsistency [complex mathematical concepts] and is

unavoidable so it always was. So my current answer is yes mathematics has

always been present at the fundamental level.

3) As to mind and body and observer I currently see all this as missing the

real issue: in my view sub systems such as we do not observe or

unilaterally decide, but rather we involuntarily participate. I see two

possibilities that are not mutually exclusive: 1) the state of the universe

just prior to my closing or not closing the switch that submits this post

spontaneously appeared in the metaverse or 2) a sequence [or sequences] of

states from some earlier initiating state(s) end in the same prior

state. These are not distinguishable. Because of all the other poised

conditions in the prior state and external noise I find inherent in the

process I believe an infinite number of new sequences emerge from this

state. In some I close the switch and in some I do not.

Hal

Received on Thu Jul 01 2004 - 22:00:42 PDT

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