Fw: NYT (Op-Ed) on Multiverse Theory

From: John M <jamikes.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 15:24:50 -0400

----- Original Message -----
From: "John M" <jamikes.domain.name.hidden>
To: " uv" <jv.domain.name.hidden>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: NYT (Op-Ed) on Multiverse Theory


> Abstruse? I think it is deeper than that. The bearded guy story is an
> age-long
> meme and intense enough for two 'abstruse' consequences:
> 1. people are willing to kill for it (and enjoy it)
> 2. people are willing to restrict their natural ferrocious tendencies
> (socially, even
> sometimes personally <G>) because of fear from the bearded guy.
>
> So IMO it is a meme still necessary for a civilized living considering
that
> "80%". We, the handful degenerate thinking animals, are a minority in a
> crowd of beasts.
> The memes are by no means "prewired", - disposition, however, may be
> given in the development of the neuronal mass. So it becomes emotional,
> hence its strength. No counter-argument accepted.
> I think there is a lot mass-eductaion necessary before we can afford to
> clear up
> the hearsay-nature of that story. Besides, many people need something to
> hold
> on to, logical or not.
>
> BTW (pardon me the scepticism) is the Multiverse less fictional? Even the
> logical argument of Deutsch seems a speculation-loaded 'evidence'. It
> requires the belief in a wide series of physical concepts, many of them
only
> consequences of prior circumstantial explanations (like: "it has got to
> be").
> I "believe" in sort of a 'multiverse' (note: 'believe'), yet not a bunch
of
> universes
> similar to ours. I see no necessity that nature be bound to our schema of
> the
> anthropocentrically derived one feeble description of our universe.
> Just think about sci-fi style trials, like the Cohen-Stewart's
Zarathustrans
> (in
> their "Collapse of Chaos"), or (bragging!) my Intats from a 6-D world who
> started this biological experiment here, on Earth, leading to hilarious
> things.
> I think the Multiverse as a bunch of similars is a pars pro toto
> simplification.
>
> Now that I offended the physicists, I close.
> Respectfully
>
> John Mikes
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: " uv" <jv.domain.name.hidden>
> To: <everything-list.domain.name.hidden>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: NYT (Op-Ed) on Multiverse Theory
>
>
> > "Eric Hawthorne" <egh.domain.name.hidden> said
> >
> > > Whoa there. 80% of Americans (or something) believe the world was
> > > created by some bearded guy
> > > in six days. Never confuse popularity with truth.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> >
> > The argument sounds fine, but the facts are probably much more abstruse.
> > It seems to be "monkey see, monkey do" and the pre-Broca's area may
> > be involved. A brief description to a very basic approach is given in
> > http://www.nlptoday.com/Ezine_April2001_Mirroring.htm
> > but this work is still bleeding-edge.
> >
>
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