Re: Consciousness schmonscioisness

From: Scott D. Yelich <scott.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:19:38 -0700 (MST)

On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, John Mikes wrote:
> > Scott
> First: the past tense is objectionable unless the answer is negative (=Yes,
> it didn't).

I don't approach my choice of and use of language by choosing words that
are continuously defendable from a certain perspective. That is,
I am not scientific in my approach.

Actually, my statement seems to indicate that I believe that time does
exist. It wasn't meant to be objectionable, but rather a reference back
to trying to get a solid answer from J.H. -- to which he always responds
that he doesn't have the time (to explain to me why time doesn't exist).

I try to gather what I can from this list -- although there appear to
be so many divergent beliefs, that I have a difficult time truly
extracting anything, let alone everything.

Back to the poiint: I'm a little crazier -- I simply think everything
can't happen all at once, hence there has to be (degrees of) difference.

> I beg to differ: it is about the level of "same". If you consider a same

I talk about this to various people who probably don't care to hear
about it. But, to me, one can't discuss levels of sameness to the same
extent that one can with difference... therefore I approach it from the
perspective of "difference" -- but we are probably talking about very
similar concepts from slightly different perspectives.

> not duplicate THIS and so that difference is information.
> We usually deal in incomplete information, by incomplete modeling in our
> thinking.
> So Scott may be right: we CANNOT compare (absolutely) same differences.
> Scott, is this what you pointed at?
> John Mikes

Yes.

Now to offend everyone... in my own simplistic method, I am programming
a system that extracts information through difference. It is a pet
project of mine. Whether it turns out to be everything, or not, is not
important. I simply want it to turn out to be something.

I am simply here, and elsewhere, looking to either find additional
insight or anything that might shoot down my theories/ideas or cause me
to alter them. I'd love to talk with anyone, via private emails,
about this programming project.

Scott
ps:
AI is alive, if is believes that it is.
AI exists because it believes that it does.
Received on Sat Feb 10 2001 - 17:32:29 PST